Trinary; The flawless Base-3 Number system.

[lionheartuk]

Hopefully, I'll have a computer solving simple word problems by the end of next year.. The complicated proccess that is actually involved there is enough to get myself a reasonable understanding of what needs to happen for a computer to actually 'recognize' something.

Something that can solve simple word Problems...huh... so basically for a nice start ur gonna re-create SPELL-CHECK.. and using spell check as a basis ur gonna make a pc recognise certain file types..
Why do all that crap which tbh.. ud be going about the long way anyways when windows and Linux and other OS's can already recognise file types..ie: mp3,wav,jpeg,avi,divx ect..

For a computer to recognse something it basically just needs a segment of code thats it can do a search for.. finding a replica of that code or at least a close replica of that code will make the computer try to play a certain file.
Ie: If i delete a bunch of data in an MP3.. but its still called MP3.. then the computer will try and play it still (most likely resulting in failure of course).

Although i dont know as much as some of you seem to.. it appears that your ideas are bigger then ur abilities.
Although thats a good thing ur still trying to invent things that serve very little Purpose or already exist.

of course in 10 years u might release ur TRINARY and itl be a huge hit.. but at the cost of the ENTIRE GLOBE having to delete all their files and computers, MP3S and things everything would have to edited just to work on your system.

Goverments would have to take down their Defence systems and then completely remake them for your trinary.. its safe to say from my POV that the entire world of computers runs off Binary.. so to change to something else would be too much hassle and cost way too much and itd take maybe 100 years for everything to be perfect again..
If u ever do make this work.. then ur best thing is to test a few files off a normal PC and see if they can be viewed,played ect on your system.

[Deniz Oezmen]

One thought I've actually had more than once would be the possibility of training a weak AI system to be able to identify unknown file formats. I have no idea how accurate it would be, or how much work it would take, but it's still interesting to think about.

That is indeed an interesting idea. To get any meaningful results, however, one would have to do much structural analysis over tons of different file formats. Main problem: You would need to identify some sort of "common structure" to build your system on, though. Still, as you say, an interesting thought.

as to why you need a base-3 system? you don't really 'need' it per se, but it would make things faster as well as more efficient in the long run.

Well, you would gain a factor of log 2 / log 3 ~= 0.63, by which the ternary representation of a number is shorter than its binary counterpart. But that's just it -- a constant factor, which does not reduce the asymptotical complexity of the algorithms involved.

Why have such limited software?

Because it can solve the given tasks more efficiently than a "one size fits all" approach could? This is an important factor, especially in (but not limited to) embedded systems. "The right tool for the job" applies here as well.

I think the main problem here is that I (as well as all of the others, I guess) cannot see what your "new invention" -- that wipes away the problems encountered during 50 years of theoretical research by some of the most brilliant heads on this planet -- is supposed to be. A simple base change is not the answer, that is probably clear ...

[Atrusino]

As I said, I was mistaken in the actual meaning of a base- system. This is actually almost more of a logic, but it's a web if you want to call it anything. Able to change dependant on several key factors. The only reason it has any relevance as a base- system is the fact that it needs 3 states to function. I apologize for the confusion as well as my own misunderstanding.

[Darkstar]

Okay, now that you've brought the transistor back into the game, maybe you could explain in a little more detail how this works? I don't quite seem to understand if you're creating a completely new "device" (by using "raw" materials like Si or GaAs) - in which case the name "schematic" would be misleading or even wrong, or if you're using existing electronic parts to create a new device (for example consisting of 2 PNP transistors, four resistors and 2 capacitors)....?

I think you're simply re-creating either Tri-state electronics (on/off/high impedance) and/or a special case of fuzzy logic ("restricted" in the sense that the transistion function between the states is not linear but a simple step)

But I'm not sure, and you're not telling all the interesting details (because of your patent application I guess)

[Atrusino]

I'm learning a lot of new terms as I delve into this... For any confusion I apologize..

The transistor: The transistor is based off of a bi-polar transistor, though the final product is quite a bit different. I've considered a modified XOR transistor though the completely recreated Bi-polar transistor was taken in favor because of a theorized cooler operating temperature.

As for the system... I've done some research and it didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that what I have is actually a logic and not a numerical system.. I'm still learning a bit how it will function with modern systems, but it seems pretty well flawless. Soon as I understand more, I'll post about it.

[Darkstar]

Oh well, you're inventing new terms again:

I've considered a modified XOR transistor

There is no such thing as an "XOR transistor". This makes no sense, since a transistor switches only voltages or currents, it doesn't do mathematical calculations like XOR. Of course you can build an XOR gate using transistors (in TTL or ECL logic, for example). But then it's not a transistor anymore, it's a circuit which utilizes some transistors.

...completely recreated Bi-polar transistor...

In what way "completely recreated"? This boils down to the original question: Did you design a new piece of silicon, or do you add some active/passive components to a transistor and look at the whole circuit as some kind of "transistor"...

...theorized cooler operating temperature...

Funny, that's exactly why bi-polar transistors are not used in computers at the moment: They switch currents, not voltage. So for them to work, you need a fairly high current, which would increase the temperature in your chip design.

Come up with something more plausible (or at least something funnier )

[Atrusino]

Apparently I have a bit more to learn about hardware than I originally realized. Thanks for the input. The XOR bit was handed down by a computer savy friend of mine. I'm takin a break from this project heh. Hopefully after I've finished my degree as well as some perosnal research I'll have a better understanding. Thanks for the input and correcting my mistakes.