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[HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

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[HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:23 am

Hello community i am new here and i like to ask if some people still working about it

I like to know how to edit shaiya .ani files i can edit 3DC files but adding another armors to shaiya i cant make it.

Well my question is anyone have any script for Blender or 3ds Max the old one that i searched in HERE and HERE are not working

I added some examples for shaiya 3DC and ANI file

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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by shakotay2 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:53 am

Bondax wrote:Well my question is anyone have any script for Blender or 3ds Max the old one tjat i searched in forum y re not working
Hello,
which old script are you talking about? Please provide a link to it.

If you want someone to care for your request a .3dc sample and a suiting animation file would be required, too.
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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:38 am

shakotay2 wrote:
Bondax wrote:Well my question is anyone have any script for Blender or 3ds Max the old one tjat i searched in forum y re not working
Hello,
which old script are you talking about? Please provide a link to it.

If you want someone to care for your request a .3dc sample and a suiting animation file would be required, too.
I edited my first post thank you

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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by shakotay2 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:35 pm

well, the ANI file looks doable (though there are some caveats) but we'll need the skeleton before.
Saiya_ANI - red.jpg
I'm missing the parenting bone ids in the .3DC file so the smd file (with dummy bone names) I created is useless so far.

Is there any additional file that might contain them? (plus the bonenames, which are missing, too)
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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:30 pm

shakotay2 wrote:well, the ANI file looks doable (though there are some caveats) but we'll need the skeleton before.
Saiya_ANI - red.jpg
I'm missing the parenting bone ids in the .3DC file so the smd file (with dummy bone names) I created is useless so far.

Is there any additional file that might contain them? (plus the bonenames, which are missing, too)
Ani files are linked with 3dc files so if u want i can send u all sets that how it looks like but the problems i can not find bones in them

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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by shakotay2 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:33 pm

all files that belong to that demf npc would be nice.

Maybe you could check the first 8 bytes of different npcs/upper bodies?
For demf_upper012.3DC it's 00000000 2C000000, that means this upper body has 44 bones.

If all upper bodies have the same bone count I could think of that they share the same skeleton (file).

edit: well, so they don't

I checked the matrix (bone positions) in 3 .3DC files belonging together and found the positions being identical (more or less) except for the first one:
demf_torso001 pos: (0.0011791660217568278,) (-1.1010617017745972,) (1.189897460562861e-07,)
demf_hand001 pos: (0.004173637367784977,) (-1.1010617017745972,) (8.601360690363435e-08,)
demf_lower001 pos: (0.004173636436462402,) (-1.1010617017745972,) (6.226488125093965e-08,)
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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:17 pm

shakotay2 wrote:all files that belong to that demf npc would be nice.

Maybe you could check the first 8 bytes of different npcs/upper bodies?
For demf_upper012.3DC it's 00000000 2C000000, that means this upper body has 44 bones.

If all upper bodies have the same bone count I could think of that they share the same skeleton (file).
This game have 4 races i have listed all bone informations

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DeathEaters;
Warrior Male	: 44 Bones
Warrior Female 	: 51 Bones
Hunter Male	: 42 Bones
Hunter Female	: 55 Bones

Elves;

Archer Male	: 50 Bones
Archer Female	: 60 Bones
Mage Mal		: 58 Bones
Mage Female	: 61 Bones

Humans;

Fighter Male	: All Armor Sets Changes like 36(older) / 38(older) / 40 (older) / 72 (Newest)
Fighter Female	: 41 Bones
Priest Male	: 56 Bones
Priest Female	: 65 Bones

Vails;

Pagan Male	: 51 Bones
Pagan Female 	: 55 Bones
Assassin Male	: 36 bones older armors / 72 bones new Armors
Assassin Female	: 44 Bones

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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by shakotay2 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:48 pm

found a skeleton in a test file with 76 bones (where 36 were named bonexx only)
issues with parenting and rotation (set to 0.0 0.0 0.0)
Shaiya_skel_76bones.jpg
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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:53 am

shakotay2 wrote:found a skeleton in a test file with 76 bones (where 36 were named bonexx only)
issues with parenting and rotation (set to 0.0 0.0 0.0)
Shaiya_skel_76bones.jpg
I got it but can u send me import/ export things for blender?
Maybe i can check like that

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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by shakotay2 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:17 pm

dunno what you mean exactly - I used Blender Source Tools for import of an smd file
which I created from the afore mentioned test file. (I'll pm you the raw bone matrices from the test file.)
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Re: [HELP]Shaiya Animation and 3DC files

Post by Bondax » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:03 am

shakotay2 wrote:dunno what you mean exactly - I used Blender Source Tools for import of an smd file
which I created from the afore mentioned test file. (I'll pm you the raw bone matrices from the test file.)
Thays wham i am asking i dont have thay source tool for shaiya files

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