Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

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Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:09 am

I used PCSX2 to dump data from the running game and came up with some interesting results, primarily uncompressed graphics of different items. Among these I got this which seems to be a TIM2 composed of several character sprite sheets each with their individual palettes and other data. When I use TIM2TGA it comes up weird so help is appreciated.

The seemingly compound TIM2

This file seems to contain all the uncompressed sprites used in the current screen. Including the pig which is the EXACT sprite used for the save screen. It was not easy retrieving these. Even in the dump many graphics are still LZR compressed... -_-

Edit: Yep! It is confirmed that dumping the last couple files of Atelier games will give the uncompressed graphics! :) Next is of course converting them properly...

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:15 am

Here's another, it contains a couple pictures, a conversion of the top stuff and an example of a monster (Wolf).

Another example

And I'll also attach an example image of the pig.
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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:33 am

Here's a whole bunch of compound TIM2s: Here

In there it shows what TIM2TGA spits out. TIM2TGA does not support this form of TIM2. Any way a program that could split the compound TIM2 up into several TGAs could be made? The graphics are all uncompressed, the palettes are intact, and so on but the TIM2 is a chimera composed of several graphic segments totally different from each other.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:48 pm

No current TIM2 handling software can convert these images, I have already tried them all. Seems this is an Atelier specific format.

I've tried hexing it so that the next image is first but I don't know what the heck I'm doing...

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:28 am

Sorry to bump this again but it seems to me that all data is contained and would require only some way to split them up as separate images. They are uncompressed, unswizled or however it is called and seem straight forward. Only problem is, no TIM2 programs convert/view them properly. The only thing that may show up is the TIM2 that starts it off.

Perhaps they are a separate image format that SEEMS to attach itself to the TIM2 that has no header or so it seems to me anyways... no available tools work for this.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:21 am

Any ideas yet? I'll assume that many are busy but I figured such a format would be straight forward. Must be pretty busy times, I'd do it but I have little experience with images. Just a bit with sounds.

I noticed bars of data I assume are palettes and height/width data.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:07 pm

Anymore of these necessary? I haven't given up on this just yet. Please someone crack this, maybe even get a converter/splitter working for it. It'd be most appreciated. :)

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:47 am

Has anyone found anything with these images? It's been a while since I last looked at them but I'm still interested in converting/viewing them.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by grimdoomer » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:23 am

I wouldnt mind looking but all the links are expired.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:54 am


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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by grimdoomer » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:52 am

Probally not much help, but I can tell you this is some sort of compressed image format like DXT. All I was able to locate was the height and width.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:29 am

Well the thing is, the graphics are not compressed. They are fully uncompressed and similar to TIM2 graphics.

How I know they are not compressed is because I can view the graphics perfectly with any texture viewer... albeit without palettes. Also, each TIM2 does have a palette. The composition TIM2s might have a palette index.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:53 am

Using the VRAM dump method leaves the graphics decompressed and includes the palette data intact. I don't see the compression you are speaking of.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:53 pm

Will I need to upload a new sample? Because I'm really starting to want to convert these.

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Re: Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana composition TIM2?

Post by Darkfox » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:37 am

http://www.sendspace.com/file/usmrej

NOT compressed, NOT encrypted. As I see it using a viewer, it's a pretty clear picture (the TGA shows the first image converted), there are obvious palettes but I am having difficulty using them in the viewers I have. I will provide screenshots of the graphics presented...

Edit: Here is what the one graphic looks like colorized (the cat).
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