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[HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:38 pm

Hello everyone, I am currently modifying the game Xin Jian 2. I have exported some file is: .mesh .mtl and .tga
I have tried google to find out about KSword3D and get the link of the forum viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8325
Hope everyone can help me understand the files I exported

-Link file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yELFra ... sp=sharing

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by shakotay2 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:12 pm

tinykidpro wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:38 pm
I have exported some file is: .mesh .mtl and .tga
I have tried google to find out about KSword3D
Don't speak in riddles. How did you export them?
This is the contents of 143.mesh, afaics (normals usually build a sphere, so dunno):
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143-mesh.png
(btw: there's one or two QNANs (not a number) when converting the hex data, so manual correction is required)
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Bigchillghost, Reverse Engineering a Game Model: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17889
extracting simple models: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10894
Make_H2O-ForzaHor3-jm9.zip
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:03 am

shakotay2 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:12 pm
tinykidpro wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:38 pm
I have exported some file is: .mesh .mtl and .tga
I have tried google to find out about KSword3D
Don't speak in riddles. How did you export them?
This is the contents of 143.mesh, afaics (normals usually build a sphere, so dunno):
.
143-mesh.png

(btw: there's one or two QNANs (not a number) when converting the hex data, so manual correction is required)
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:50 am

shakotay2 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:12 pm
tinykidpro wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:38 pm
I have exported some file is: .mesh .mtl and .tga
I have tried google to find out about KSword3D
Don't speak in riddles. How did you export them?
This is the contents of 143.mesh, afaics (normals usually build a sphere, so dunno):
.
143-mesh.png

(btw: there's one or two QNANs (not a number) when converting the hex data, so manual correction is required)
please help me

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by shakotay2 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:54 am

I don't have much time. Ask your specific questions and I'll try to answer them.

As always it's required that you get some basic understanding of 3D formats (see/read links in my sig).
Bigchillghost, Reverse Engineering a Game Model: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17889
extracting simple models: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10894
Make_H2O-ForzaHor3-jm9.zip
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:46 am

shakotay2 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:54 am
I don't have much time. Ask your specific questions and I'll try to answer them.

As always it's required that you get some basic understanding of 3D formats (see/read links in my sig).
I have read it, but still don't quite understand, can you make a video or tutorial for my .mesh file? If I have finished editing the .mesh or .obj file, how can I export it back to its original format? thank you very much for your support :D

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:51 am

shakotay2 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:54 am
I don't have much time. Ask your specific questions and I'll try to answer them.

As always it's required that you get some basic understanding of 3D formats (see/read links in my sig).
I just want to know how to edit this .mesh file, for example here is the Christmas tree, edit it to become another tree and put it back into the game

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by shakotay2 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am

tinykidpro wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:46 am
If I have finished editing the .mesh or .obj file, how can I export it back to its original format? thank you very much for your support :D
What did you edit? The .mesh or an .obj?

How did you edit the .mesh? In case you didn't change the vertex count there's no reason why the game shouldn't accept the modified .mesh.

(You didn't answer my question, how you got the unchanged .mesh file. Is it directly from a game folder/archive file or is it "exported"?
If "exported" then with which tool? What was the input file then?)

You need to realize that an obj_to_some3DFormat converter is very time consuming to create. It's not that simple as you might think of.

Converting some3DFormat to obj usually takes 15 minutes (first submesh only) for simple formats.
That's probably the reason why some guys believe the vice versa way is similar. But it is not.

You may read here to better understand, why:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13184&hilit=vkm
Bigchillghost, Reverse Engineering a Game Model: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17889
extracting simple models: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10894
Make_H2O-ForzaHor3-jm9.zip
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:17 pm

shakotay2 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am
tinykidpro wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:46 am
If I have finished editing the .mesh or .obj file, how can I export it back to its original format? thank you very much for your support :D
What did you edit? The .mesh or an .obj?

How did you edit the .mesh? In case you didn't change the vertex count there's no reason why the game shouldn't accept the modified .mesh.

(You didn't answer my question, how you got the unchanged .mesh file. Is it directly from a game folder/archive file or is it "exported"?
If "exported" then with which tool? What was the input file then?)

You need to realize that an obj_to_some3DFormat converter is very time consuming to create. It's not that simple as you might think of.

Converting some3DFormat to obj usually takes 15 minutes (first submesh only) for simple formats.
That's probably the reason why some guys believe the vice versa way is similar. But it is not.

You may read here to better understand, why:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13184&hilit=vkm
This file is pak in the game data file, I unpak it and it appears in the folder

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by shakotay2 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:23 pm

ok, then: how did you edit the .mesh? (details, not one sentence, please :) )
Bigchillghost, Reverse Engineering a Game Model: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17889
extracting simple models: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10894
Make_H2O-ForzaHor3-jm9.zip
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by tinykidpro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:30 pm

shakotay2 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am
tinykidpro wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:46 am
If I have finished editing the .mesh or .obj file, how can I export it back to its original format? thank you very much for your support :D
What did you edit? The .mesh or an .obj?

How did you edit the .mesh? In case you didn't change the vertex count there's no reason why the game shouldn't accept the modified .mesh.

(You didn't answer my question, how you got the unchanged .mesh file. Is it directly from a game folder/archive file or is it "exported"?
If "exported" then with which tool? What was the input file then?)

You need to realize that an obj_to_some3DFormat converter is very time consuming to create. It's not that simple as you might think of.

Converting some3DFormat to obj usually takes 15 minutes (first submesh only) for simple formats.
That's probably the reason why some guys believe the vice versa way is similar. But it is not.

You may read here to better understand, why:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13184&hilit=vkm
Can you give me a video tutorial?

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by shakotay2 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 pm

You'd better answer my questions than waiting for a "video tutorial" - I don't have the time for such, sorry.
Bigchillghost, Reverse Engineering a Game Model: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17889
extracting simple models: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10894
Make_H2O-ForzaHor3-jm9.zip
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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by SilesVyr » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:55 pm

shakotay2 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 pm
You'd better answer my questions than waiting for a "video tutorial" - I don't have the time for such, sorry.
Hello, could i contact you on discord? I really need help

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Re: [HELP] Mod model game Xin Jian 2

Post by Dinoguy1000 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:27 am

SilesVyr wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:55 pm
shakotay2 wrote:
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You'd better answer my questions than waiting for a "video tutorial" - I don't have the time for such, sorry.
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