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 Post subject: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:23 pm 
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I'm trying to understand the audio of a rather mysterious WAV file extracted from AFC archive.

Mediainfo says this

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Format : Wave
File size : 288 KiB
Duration : 28s 941ms
Overall bit rate : 81.6 Kbps

Audio
Format : In Development
Codec ID : FFFF
Duration : 28s 941ms
Bit rate : 81.6 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
Stream size : 288 KiB (100%)


while the first lines of Hex editor say this

RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, stereo 32000 Hz

Quote:
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 0123456789ABCDEF
000000 52 49 46 46 39 81 04 00 57 41 56 45 66 6D 74 20 RIFF9...WAVEfmt
000010 28 00 00 00 FF FF 02 00 00 7D 00 00 D2 27 00 00 (........}...'..
000020 00 00 00 00 16 00 18 00 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ................
000030 00 00 10 00 80 00 00 AA 00 38 9B 71 63 75 65 20 .........8.qcue
000040 1C 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
000050 64 61 74 61 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 data............
000060 4C 49 53 54 1E 00 00 00 61 64 74 6C 6C 61 62 6C LIST....adtllabl
000070 12 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 54 65 6D 70 6F 3A 20 31 ........Tempo: 1
000080 33 37 2E 30 00 00 76 6F 72 62 34 00 00 00 4B 16 37.0..vorb4...K.
000090 0E 00 CD 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 0E 00 00 0A 01 ................
0000A0 00 00 A4 7C 04 00 88 03 00 00 58 12 00 00 6D 01 ...|......X...m.
0000B0 00 00 EC 37 00 00 AC 39 00 00 42 68 A4 5C 08 0B ...7...9..Bh.\..
0000C0 00 00 64 61 74 61 77 80 04 00 00 00 00 00 D0 0E ..dataw.........
0000D0 00 00 C0 22 00 00 EA 1A 00 00 C0 42 00 00 04 25 ...".......B...%
0000E0 00 00 C0 62 00 00 ED 2E 00 00 C0 82 00 00 1F 39 ...b...........9
0000F0 00 00 C0 A2 00 00 2F 43 00 00 C0 C2 00 00 35 4D ....../C......5M
000100 00 00 C0 E2 00 00 30 57 00 00 C0 02 01 00 19 61 ......0W.......a
0000B0 00 00 EC 37 00 00 AC 39 00 00 42 68 A4 5C 08 0B ...7...9..Bh.\..
0000C0 00 00 64 61 74 61 77 80 04 00 00 00 00 00 D0 0E ..dataw.........


Do you guys have any idea of
1-how to play the file
and
2-how to understand metadata in it, specifically loop points

?

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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:16 am 
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Anyone? I tried WW2ogg but all data inside the file is lost.


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:43 pm 
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Upload a sample :)


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:48 pm 
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Obvious, silly me. if that is permitted, I will do it now.

There it is.
https://mega.co.nz/#!N5MT2SDB!gkXs5HHfi ... fgxmHwDT1g


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 12:51 pm 
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no idea at all?


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
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Code:
for %%i in (*.wav) do ww2ogg "%%i" --pcb packed_codebooks_aoTuV_603.bin --full-setup
pause


Save that into a .bat file and it will convert it just fine.

The file needed the "--full-setup" option to be decoded :)


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
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thanks, but why that works? I tried opening the wav in WWise but it wouldn't work (file .wav)

will it also save metadata information such as loop points?


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
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nope. no metadata is found. no loop points, nothing. and I know they are there..


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 Post subject: Re: Understand Metadata from an unknown audio file
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Update: I have found sample data and label data. using RIFFpad.

the fadeout I hear at the end is identified as "junk at the end of the file" by riffpad, and some files sport the SMPL information the author of ww2ogg mentioned to hold loop information.

all this is visible only if the file is WAV or RIFF file. it is not possible to see them if it is converted to ogg. Notepad++ can see this information, as can RIFFpad.

now, if there was a way to delete all junk data automatically..



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