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 Post subject: Final Fantasy X Maps
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:26 pm 
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Hey everyone !

I'm currently working on this big musical project based on FFX and for the video I thought it'd be really cool if I could somehow create "exclusive" visuals which look like they come directly from the game :)
And for that my idea is to rebuild entire maps from the game using the original files.

I've managed to extract some .smd and all of the textures thanks to various techniques found on this board, but one crucial thing is missing, that is the UV maps !
Without them these are just giant, very tedious puzzles to solve and so I was wondering if there was any way to get them ?

Any help is welcome !

Having a camera wander through Beside Island would be especially cool for example :

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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From which FFX version are you extracting the models? From the original PS2 version or from the remaster? I think FFX is available on 4-5 platforms now :D

I haven't used it myself, but daemon1's tool should be able to extract the models with UVs from the pc remaster of the game : viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16930


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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These are from the PC version !
And I actually used daemon1's tool to extract them ^^
But sadly they don't seem to export UVs for the maps


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Pintozoz wrote:
But sadly they don't seem to export UVs for the maps

Can you post some sample game files then?


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Sure !
Here's Beside Island : http://www.mediafire.com/file/6pvhu0acp ... Island.zip
It's in several formats ( .blend, .dae and .smd ) plus the textures and a screen of what it should look like !


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Pintozoz wrote:
It's in several formats ( .blend, .dae and .smd ) plus the textures and a screen of what it should look like !

I meant the original file from the game, probably with the "dae.phyre" extension or something.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Oh yeah ! Here you go : http://www.mediafire.com/file/a477v4ntd ... bsvr00.zip


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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There seems to be nothing wrong with daemon1's tool. I am reading exactly the same data for UVs.

The uvs are not wrong, but they are drawn on top of each other. I have checked the maps from another Phyre game I worked on (Secret of Mana), and the uvs are also like that.

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I think you can split the mesh into smaller parts to solve the problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Oh yeah you are right, UVs are OK !
The problem is that none of the textures are linked, and that means dozens and dozens of textures to relink for some of these maps... which is ilke one hell of a puzzle to solve ^^


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akderebur wrote:
There seems to be nothing wrong with daemon1's tool. I am reading exactly the same data for UVs.

The uvs are not wrong, but they are drawn on top of each other. I have checked the maps from another Phyre game I worked on (Secret of Mana), and the uvs are also like that.


Did you have any issues texture-wise with SoM ?
I really wonder if there's a way to get those FFX textures linked cause I'd like to use several of these maps and it would save me a lot of time...


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Pintozoz wrote:
Did you have any issues texture-wise with SoM ?
I really wonder if there's a way to get those FFX textures linked cause I'd like to use several of these maps and it would save me a lot of time...

No issues with the textures, but I applied them manually. There is probably a table that links meshes to materials, and materials to textures, but I haven't researched that far. I am mainly interested in character models, and applying them manually isn't too much of a problem.

I can see how it is a huge problem for the maps. With that many meshes, it would take some time.


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Hello , did you find a solution to get UV Maps i'm quite tired to link each texture randomly until it works ^^


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Managed to get maps with uv's and textures ! :) here is besaid temple if you want : http://www.mediafire.com/file/eaxyy43zb ... Temple.rar


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simlucrato wrote:
Managed to get maps with uv's and textures ! :) here is besaid temple if you want : http://www.mediafire.com/file/eaxyy43zb ... Temple.rar

Excellent!

Here's what it looks like, assets as they came, with a better camera/HDR/postFX system in place.


If you're able to release some other areas of Besaid, I'd be more than happy to re-render them!


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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy X Maps
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Changed a few things, trying out a new post tonemapper, and fixed the double-sided tree leaves.




Still a few problems, mostly to do with normals. The ground I think wasn't lit in realtime, and with baked static lightmapping normals weren't a concern, likely the same with the huts/houses. As long as the edges matched up at the seams with the lightmaps, you'd never notice.

And honestly, the trees need to be replaced. They're always the weakest link on older titles, and have none of the data or detail a modern system can use.


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